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difficult neighborhood is not surprising. We have a troubled relationship with neighboring countries. As you remember, we had conflicts and wars in 1975 (Tacna), 1981 (False Paquisha), 1983 (Malvinas), 1995 (Cenepa) and since the beginning of this century, we had a resurgence of tensions with southern neighbors. It's like someone who has a health issue that has to care for and live with him. You have to take precautions. No need to despair, or burn flags, or do bad blood. We must take action. As the French proverb says, good accounts make good friends. , Then, to i) care for military parity at all times and ii) to reciprocity in political and economic relations.
i) The country needs to have a deterrent capability on the military level. The neighbor may underestimate. Whatever. The important thing is that we We did not underestimate them. And Chile's reaction was to The rocket Paulet 1 and Scud. There was concern. Supposedly, the neighbor has the military superiority, but beware.
ii) National defense is not isolated from economic relations. In the discussion of the reciprocity law was clear that the technocrats had much more power than the Peruvian military. It is ridiculous that the neighbors have laws that restrict investment in its ports, and Peru did not have them. View "Giampietri Act or law of reciprocity and national security? . In Chile during the Pinochet government had several debates won by the military on technocracy, fist Pinochet pounding the table included: the law of the copper and the privatization of military pensions, among others. (If the AFPs are so good, why a military government military excludes them?). see Chile's military and its relationship with the United States . In Peru during the Fujimori seems that all the debates had won the technocracy, following a low-profile tactic . The Chilean military, led by Pinochet Ugarte, are the heroes of the ride, the Peruvian military, led by Velasco Alvarado, are the villains. Both institutional military governments were governments of the armed forces. While Chile was left with the mines and not reversed the nationalization Allende, Peru first thing he did was to reverse the nationalization Velasco. The Peruvian military, beleaguered by terrorism and its velasquismo timid, subordinate any geopolitical or social consideration to what they impose technocracy. We are now in the ridiculous situation of allowing the country that do not allow neighboring countries and have "privatized" so that foreign state enterprises made resource extraction see a bad employer status (except when abroad) .
2. A spy, does it matter?
Given the conflicting relationship in the region, not last century and fourth, but in recent decades, no news should appear there is a Peruvian citizen spy for another country. Montesinos was one of them, and look how far he went. Peruvian citizenship spies shot in the seventies. The spies of the Ecuadorian Peruvian citizenship "Death on the little Pentagon", which apparently were incinerated. Chilean spies the Argentine consulate in Punta Arenas. The spies of the CIA in the seventies, as allegedly was Gonzales Posada, the spies of the KGB in Lima. However, unlike other low-profile cases in real time, such as the Ecuadorian intelligence in Peru was the recent case profile high filtering via RPP. Why?
3. "Judge and jury? P21
Told: Chile receives today intelligence tests. "Peru has evidence to the country they are accused of espionage? Should not present such evidence to the OAS or the UN? Many words like "republic", but what real action is taking to the track? Why does air the issue, if not certainly be accused neighboring country?
4. "Again the manipulation of public opinion? A few days ago
Francisco Durand wrote in Back in the days of the oligarchy :
As you said Ortiz de Zevallos, in the elections "a lot of poor people are easily persuaded"
And as you said Alfredo Zitarrosa:
For me there is more "wrong" the cunning
" bossy "
that's bad, it is worse
and that is good at all ...
-the thing is to find a way to separate better. One thing is clear
and it must be said also:
that the boss knows
as to deceive people.
And for a change, the spy comes when falling approval Garcia consolidates.
A President Garcia will meet with political leaders for espionage case
Just before a day of protest on November 26 . The case has been good to him cornered Garcia.
5. Well Piñera Spy
The issue burst into full Chilean elections, even just before a presidential debate Wednesday night. And the Peruvian media aligned with the Garcia government has not hidden his sympathy for the rightist candidate. Very explicitly raises the director of P21 War Drums
hope that a future government led by Piñera Chile, royalty-free Copper and without having to prove to conservatives that shakes the hand, allows to build a mature and pragmatic bilateral relationship.
The ideal of these sectors is a government-businessman in Chile Chilean bring more business in Peru. Du Bois has not cut his hair to attack the coalition as "the socialist Bachelet"
This is critical because it was just the copper bonanza revenue for arms purchases have been 5.300 million dollars over the past four years-which, coupled with a need for socialist Michelle Bachelet want to show that it is hard on the issues military has facilitated the development of the arms race that is our neighbor.
Links to the Socialist Bachelet to the law of the copper, giving the southern arms race connotation "socialist" when in Chile simply national consensus in favor of public enterprises and the use of surplus public real well, as is national defense.
6. "American bases in Peru?
Some columnists have not been slow to sign up to ask U.S. bases in Peru and even a "mini-NATO" with Colombia, as a defense mechanism against the "threat Chile." These orders come from the sectors distant to have a proactive policy on national defense. They have gone from being pigeon coup to be hawks. Have been notorious cases of Mirko Lauer in Chile-Peru: A Spy in the bilateral gear :
In this context ends tempting becoming a Faustian bargain with the Colombian, who uses U.S. access to our airports bases and to strengthen our capacity to face the narcosenderismo and somehow compensate for the growing military imbalance imposed on us by our prosperous southern neighbor. Now ask
American bases. When war scenarios discussed here the Peru-Chile sneers
With more playful mood, but some blogs interested in the subject have begun to play with hypotheses of war, even Playstation. View
here LD. And Aldo
Mariátegui Ariza Edges:
- Maybe it's time to raise a military treaty of mutual assistance in case of war with Colombia, a mini NATO to contain the warlike Chile and Venezuela although there would be a risk of putting arms to Ecuador in mapochinos.
The latter is a coordination problem, since before says "Well that sell electricity to Ecuador. Quito is necessary to keep away from the orbit chilena ". Neither the U.S. nor Colombia are going to get into a conflict with Chile, then. Ecuador is not the orbit away from Chile because Peru will sell electricity. Peru has to rely on its own merits. Notice how it uses the spy theme to slide that Peru should accept U.S. bases or a pact with Colombia, historically neutral or against us.
A Again Aldo M: Colombian The solution? :
Given the overwhelming military superiority and threats Chilean Hugo Chavez along with his henchman Evo, maybe we should already be thinking military alliance NATO to Colombia. Not only would gain a powerful ally and U.S. sponsorship (we should find offering bases) , but that it would be much more difficult for the world tolerate multiple aggression in Latin America without intervening. Brazil could also be a good candidate for partner.
And not only is this press, but the minister of defense Rey:
Peruvian Minister regretted that the U.S. has no military base on its territory
big mistake and irresponsible national defense base in others.
7. "Armed Forces serving mining companies or the country? Gen. Roberto Chiabra
noted in the agenda of the lawyer Rosa María Palacios contradiction of employers, particularly miners, with the military. Do not want to contribute to the armed forces, but which conflict with peasant and indigenous communities and calling for a military base. The state to defend them from other Peruvians affected by contamination.
8. Uri, do not ask an elm seeds
director Reason throws his chalk to blogstars, here :
(Incidentally, this affair has served to make the logs from falling on the third floor to the basement. We do not see them any nugget. From their wombs virtual pontificate much about the "new journalism", but before the biggest news in years are limited to rebound as published in the newspapers 'traditional').
To take a "pit" in a topic like this, would have to involve some sort of spyware blogger, or American soldiers who write blogs and get exclusive photos, or videos with war scenes (maybe they can win with something like a Starbucks). Moreover, blogs are a means: they provide what their authors have to offer. In this blog geopolitical issues, historical and national defense have been treated intensively and extensively. Some posts:
- Sea " Concordia?
- Peru-Chile War
- Charaña What was it?
And there are several others, see in the form of blog.
9. The
they let you Combita In had geopolitical :
During the Chilean occupation of Lima, for a century and a half, a woman, of Lima, was accused and harassed by our compatriots, "How many Chileans were you?" , they asked, in a tone of mockery and reproach for sharing a bed with the invader. And she replied without flinching: "With all that you did let go."
Fujimori lands now anti-Chilean fired everywhere. But ... was it not during the Fujimori who came Chilean investment in Peru? Is not then thought on national defense?
10.
history repeating Fujimori visited Quito and was cheered in his first government, but this did not stop the war in 1995 came Cenepa. Garcia did something similar. Bachelet stood by Garcia in the Peruvian military parade and we have a conflict served ...
12. American presence
After the war Cenepa, the United States as a guarantor country developed a program boundaries. Today, USAID has a clear presence on the Peruvian border with Ecuador, see Transnational Borders, which coincidentally is located American mining companies. United States closely followed that conflict (and obtained a military base in Manta after it).
The United States also had a very clear presence in the conflict held in Chile (Bolivia and more). In fact, our relations have been mediated by the United States. That was the end of the Pacific War, the Treaty of 1929, in the near war in the mid-seventies, and it seems to be now ....
A U.S. and addressed the topic: U.S. calls to Peru and Chile to resolve their differences bilaterally .
12. Anti-Chilean American
the U.S. government disliked the direction of the Chilean government against the coup in Honduras and for the readmission of Cuba to the OAS, here. Since then, the Peruvian press has taken its batteries against Insulza and Bachelet. Note this detail:
Gonzales Posada, Peru should not vote for re-election of the OAS Insulza
The (former) CIA , without thinking twice, it was pointed to pressure on Insulza . While the United States fell, with Hillary Clinton in the lead, Cuba and Honduras, Peru fell, with Gonzales Posada at the top, dusting the arms sales to Ecuador and the arms (which is not now). Notice how often think Gonzales Posada international policy, provided allinase with Uncle Sam. Peru already has enough with their own conflicts and to be left trying to pawn of American policy in the region.
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independent foreign policy of Peru needs a foreign policy indedependiente. We do not need we have to align with anyone, nor will defend us. Or bases, or miniotanes or Pinera. Nor should we exaggerate the noisy spy theme. Less noise and more Paulets.
14. Please note:
- Alan Garcia, Chilean bloggers spyware and
- Peruvian Military accused of spying for Chile
- Within a week of reviewing the sentence Fujimori
- Confusion spy
A 15 Approval of García and Bachelet
Taken from Ipsos-Chile, October 2009, here and Garcia drop :
obvious difference.
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in South America are creating two blocks, the block Atlantic (BA) and the Pacific block (BP). U.S. sees Brazil as an emerging power with interests that only BP can counterbalance. And here we have common interests with the Americans. Each block requires a leader, a motor, and the country most able to take BP's office in Chile, for now.
So if you think we should merge with Bolivia, in a Bolivarian federation can attract then to Ecuador and Colombia. Can not counterbalance to separate Brazil's aspiration to dominate the Amazon. Chile only plays a divide.
11/18/2009 14:40
Dear Silvio,
While we get lost in bickering with Chile, nobody in government or in the press becomes clearer, so how is it possible to spy operating for more than two years before the hearing and patience of the authorities, how well Mr. Ariza is re-admitted to the FAP after being expelled even though it was investigated how well the same FAP report the fact to the civil courts and not the military justice system, how well, being this fact and reported since late October, the government continued empñeando in the famous anti-disarmament campaign, including a hearing scheduled by the Minister Araoz to Chile ... etc etc. We could even
risking some hypotheses as proposed by Mr. Wiener on first day. If Ariza is captured in October on charges of espionage, how they could ignore President Alan Garcia? Moreover, how they could ignore their contacts in the Chilean intelligence? and therefore the government of Chile? Are perhaps revealing the words of the Chilean foreign minister at the news, 'too many coincidences that out now and the answer lies in Peru' ... no recently 'under the table deal "between the two governments not to disclose this issue ..? and when they finally filtered to the public, the fact taken by surprise to Garcia but also Bachelet? Why
President Garcia canceled his schedule for a whole day in Asia? why their return journey ahead? he was perfectly cancel his meeting with Bachelet without canceling your participation in the APEC forum ... finally, at the domestic level which sectors strengthens the crisis? (Definitely not those who support the policy of containment to Chile, as RREE, King and neo-see article by Alvaro Vargas Llosa's La Tercera de Chile, now) ... anyway, there are many questions that lead us to think that we know is only a small part of the real story, and that perhaps the government seeks to avoid answers now appealing to the exchange adjectives with the government of Chile. Hopefully the investigative press to live up to their responsibilities.
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